[Freecol-developers] Renewing web page

Discussion:

Jonathan Aquilina

2016-05-30 15:29:33 UTC

Out of curiosity Mike,

Do you want something like a wordpress site? I have plesk and i activly
maintain all wordpress sites that are on my server.

Jonathan Aquilina

Hello, I think I'm close to finish the new webpage
QUESTION 1
http://www.freecol.org/javadoc/

They are generated from the source code with "ant javadoc" at release
time, and
uploaded as part of the documentation. See the .../bin/release.sh script in
the git tree.

I don't know where are this documents and
I can't include them on the new webpage if I'm not sure that will be on

the

same url after upload of the new static html files

You can assume that url is stable.

QUESTION 2
Another Question, I'm doing the new web page with Joomla, and after

that, I

captured into html static files with a spider program.
When I finished the new design i propose
Can I send Joomla web and sql to the person who usually maintain the web
page,

If only there was such a person. I thought we made this clear when you
proposed a redesign? The web site has to be simple and static because we
do not want a repeat of the time we were broken into, and there is no
regular active volunteer maintainer.
Cheers,
Mike Pope
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Petr Fišer

2016-05-30 06:29:47 UTC

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Hi,

Javadocs are made by autogenerating them from source codes. Those are
static files and you can find structure on official pages:
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/tools/solaris/javadoc.html#generatedfiles
and the rest (because java pkg names are transformed into directory
structure in javadocs) should be relatively easy to spider.
It is easy to implement different context on a webserver with some
rewrite rule so changing physical location of files won't be a
showstopper.

A little question: If I remember correctly, original freecol page was
hacked and then it was replaced with static web. You then transformed
it into Joomla, which is IMHO one big security hole. Do not take it as
I'm trying to break&offend, that really isn't my intention - but I'm
curious if this is a new webpage proposal or complete new
implementation already to be deployed. Because webpage maintainer
should be able to patch whole thing due to security fixes. I'm not
speaking for Freecol devs, I'm merely curious. :)

Regards,
Fiisch

Hello, I think I'm close to finish the new webpage
QUESTION 1
http://www.freecol.org/javadoc/
I don't know where are this documents and
I can't include them on the new webpage if I'm not sure that will be on the
same url after upload of the new static html files
Can I include this url and be sure that will be correct? (without including
javadoc files that I have not access)
QUESTION 2
Another Question, I'm doing the new web page with Joomla, and after that, I
captured into html static files with a spider program.
When I finished the new design i propose
Can I send Joomla web and sql to the person who usually maintain the web
page, to make it easy to maintain? And instructions for capture Joomla into
html. I think that I can send it with wetransfer or dropbox but I need to
know...
is there real interest to create contents with Joomla and after capture
into static html?
How I can share/send it my joomla and intructions?
Sorry for my little english again
I hope I made myself clear
Bernat
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Bernard toms

2016-05-30 21:42:52 UTC

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Hello!

No I'm not offended jjeejee XD
My goal is not to put a new Joomla in production
I only use Joomla as a platform to generate content before I generate a
pure html files website
and after I get this static html files, put it in production

Because my English its too little I will try to explain by steps
What I done
1- I done in my PC a local Joomla installation with the old contents but
with new a design

2- I captured (the local renewed web) the entire site and transformed into
.html static

3.- If everybody likes, we can put this static html css and images
into production server replacing the current

Since that point I suppose that I can explained myself correctly (if google
translator don't fail me) :)

What else...

I think that is easiest to add content with a CMS (like Joomla for example)
And after this opinion I think... (and if the web maintainer like and makes
his work easiest)

What If the web maintainer have a copy of my local Joomla in his PC and
repeat steps 4 5 and 6 when he add new content?

4- The web maintainer add new content on the administration of Joomla on
his local PC webserver
5.- The web maintainer capture the html with the spider
6.-then web maintainer, can upload static html to the production web server

local webserver, can be, wamp xampp, mamp or a virtual machine with ubuntu
(with virual box), all this otpions are free

Thanks, and if the web maintainer like, tell me how I can send, Joomla and
sql

(I need a little more time to clean css styles and a few things, like
broken urls, and find that every image is public domain. I just can give
this project a few hours on Sundays That is why I'm slow But I try to give
any free time and I'm try to make a decent web too)

Post by Petr FiÅ¡er
Hi,
Javadocs are made by autogenerating them from source codes. Those are
http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/tools/solaris/javadoc.html#generatedfiles
and the rest (because java pkg names are transformed into directory
structure in javadocs) should be relatively easy to spider.
It is easy to implement different context on a webserver with some
rewrite rule so changing physical location of files won't be a
showstopper.
A little question: If I remember correctly, original freecol page was
hacked and then it was replaced with static web. You then transformed
it into Joomla, which is IMHO one big security hole. Do not take it as
I'm trying to break&offend, that really isn't my intention - but I'm
curious if this is a new webpage proposal or complete new
implementation already to be deployed. Because webpage maintainer
should be able to patch whole thing due to security fixes. I'm not
speaking for Freecol devs, I'm merely curious. :)
Regards,
Fiisch

the

same url after upload of the new static html files
Can I include this url and be sure that will be correct? (without

including

javadoc files that I have not access)
QUESTION 2
Another Question, I'm doing the new web page with Joomla, and after

that, I

captured into html static files with a spider program.
When I finished the new design i propose
Can I send Joomla web and sql to the person who usually maintain the web
page, to make it easy to maintain? And instructions for capture Joomla

into

html. I think that I can send it with wetransfer or dropbox but I need to
know...
is there real interest to create contents with Joomla and after capture
into static html?
How I can share/send it my joomla and intructions?
Sorry for my little english again
I hope I made myself clear
Bernat

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Petr Fišer

2016-05-31 06:32:43 UTC

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Hi,
I see now. Neat idea actually. :)
How about future maintainability without Joomla? If you generate
static files, I would expect - for example - CSS styles to be
cluttered with needless things because of heavier nature of cms
system.
Also - for getting it to the devs - virtual machine would be awesome.
You can write instructions to some txt file in it, setup whole
environment and just give some guidelines for "if you want ot add the
page, just run vm, add it into joomla, then run 'this neat script i
prepared which will build whole site' and upload final version to the
freecol website". I know that vm will be big in comparison to the
sources, but the convenience could be IMO a huge payoff.

Fiisch

Post by Bernard toms
Hello!
No I'm not offended jjeejee XD
My goal is not to put a new Joomla in production
I only use Joomla as a platform to generate content before I generate a pure
html files website
and after I get this static html files, put it in production
Because my English its too little I will try to explain by steps
What I done
1- I done in my PC a local Joomla installation with the old contents but
with new a design
2- I captured (the local renewed web) the entire site and transformed into
.html static
3.- If everybody likes, we can put this static html css and images into
production server replacing the current
Since that point I suppose that I can explained myself correctly (if google
translator don't fail me) :)
What else...
I think that is easiest to add content with a CMS (like Joomla for example)
And after this opinion I think... (and if the web maintainer like and makes
his work easiest)
What If the web maintainer have a copy of my local Joomla in his PC and
repeat steps 4 5 and 6 when he add new content?
4- The web maintainer add new content on the administration of Joomla on his
local PC webserver
5.- The web maintainer capture the html with the spider
6.-then web maintainer, can upload static html to the production web server
local webserver, can be, wamp xampp, mamp or a virtual machine with ubuntu
(with virual box), all this otpions are free
Thanks, and if the web maintainer like, tell me how I can send, Joomla and
sql
(I need a little more time to clean css styles and a few things, like broken
urls, and find that every image is public domain. I just can give this
project a few hours on Sundays That is why I'm slow But I try to give any
free time and I'm try to make a decent web too)

Hello, I think I'm close to finish the new webpage
QUESTION 1
http://www.freecol.org/javadoc/
I don't know where are this documents and
I can't include them on the new webpage if I'm not sure that will be on the
same url after upload of the new static html files
Can I include this url and be sure that will be correct? (without including
javadoc files that I have not access)
QUESTION 2
Another Question, I'm doing the new web page with Joomla, and after that, I
captured into html static files with a spider program.
When I finished the new design i propose
Can I send Joomla web and sql to the person who usually maintain the web
page, to make it easy to maintain? And instructions for capture Joomla into
html. I think that I can send it with wetransfer or dropbox but I need to
know...
is there real interest to create contents with Joomla and after capture
into static html?
How I can share/send it my joomla and intructions?
Sorry for my little english again
I hope I made myself clear
Bernat
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Bernard toms

2016-06-03 18:15:38 UTC

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Hello Petr!

About question 1, I can "delete" references on the frontend of Joomla of
unused css and js like:
/template/system/css/system.css
/media/system/js/mootols-core.js
/media/system/js/mootols-more.js
It's a very good idea!! Thanks!!

About question 2:
Yes I like the idea of a Virtual Machine, but I don't know how to send it.
I would like to send a very detailed instructions or I can't try to do a
video tutorial and put into youtube (But I never do it!)
I can send the code in a zip too and instructions too depending of the
local operating that who maintain it.

Thanks for your time :)

Post by Petr FiÅ¡er
Hi,
I see now. Neat idea actually. :)
How about future maintainability without Joomla? If you generate
static files, I would expect - for example - CSS styles to be
cluttered with needless things because of heavier nature of cms
system.
Also - for getting it to the devs - virtual machine would be awesome.
You can write instructions to some txt file in it, setup whole
environment and just give some guidelines for "if you want ot add the
page, just run vm, add it into joomla, then run 'this neat script i
prepared which will build whole site' and upload final version to the
freecol website". I know that vm will be big in comparison to the
sources, but the convenience could be IMO a huge payoff.
Fiisch

Post by Bernard toms
Hello!
No I'm not offended jjeejee XD
My goal is not to put a new Joomla in production
I only use Joomla as a platform to generate content before I generate a

pure

Post by Bernard toms
html files website
and after I get this static html files, put it in production
Because my English its too little I will try to explain by steps
What I done
1- I done in my PC a local Joomla installation with the old contents but
with new a design
2- I captured (the local renewed web) the entire site and transformed

into

Post by Bernard toms
.html static
3.- If everybody likes, we can put this static html css and images into
production server replacing the current
Since that point I suppose that I can explained myself correctly (if

google

Post by Bernard toms
translator don't fail me) :)
What else...
I think that is easiest to add content with a CMS (like Joomla for

example)

Post by Bernard toms
And after this opinion I think... (and if the web maintainer like and

makes

Post by Bernard toms
his work easiest)
What If the web maintainer have a copy of my local Joomla in his PC and
repeat steps 4 5 and 6 when he add new content?
4- The web maintainer add new content on the administration of Joomla on

his

Post by Bernard toms
local PC webserver
5.- The web maintainer capture the html with the spider
6.-then web maintainer, can upload static html to the production web

server

Post by Bernard toms
local webserver, can be, wamp xampp, mamp or a virtual machine with

ubuntu

Post by Bernard toms
(with virual box), all this otpions are free
Thanks, and if the web maintainer like, tell me how I can send, Joomla

and

Post by Bernard toms
sql
(I need a little more time to clean css styles and a few things, like

broken

Post by Bernard toms
urls, and find that every image is public domain. I just can give this
project a few hours on Sundays That is why I'm slow But I try to give any
free time and I'm try to make a decent web too)

Post by Petr FiÅ¡er
Hi,
Javadocs are made by autogenerating them from source codes. Those are

http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/tools/solaris/javadoc.html#generatedfiles